
Rear delt face pulls are a cable exercise where you pull a rope toward your face and finish by pulling it apart, elbows high.
They train the back of your shoulders and the small stabilizing muscles around the joint, but only when you lead with your elbows and finish with your hands rotated back.
Most lifters never get there. They feel the movement in their traps and biceps, decide the exercise is overrated, and quietly drop it.
This guide covers the setup that makes the difference, the finish position almost nobody teaches, and how to tell mid set whether the right muscle is doing the work.
Face Pulls Muscles Worked
Face pulls can be a rear delt exercise or a trap exercise. The setup decides which one you actually do.
Done properly, they train the back of your shoulders, your upper back, and the rotator cuff, roughly in that order.
Rear Delts (The Back Of Your Shoulders)
The posterior deltoid drags your upper arm backward and out to the side. That is the head of the shoulder that pressing and lateral raises leave mostly untouched while they build the front and side.
It only really joins in once your elbow travels past the line of your body. A short pull that stops in front of your chest leaves it mostly out of the rep.
You can feel the switch. Reps that finish with your elbow behind your torso bite in the back of the shoulder, and reps that stop out front sit in your upper back.
Traps And Upper Back
Your mid traps and rhomboids pull your shoulder blades toward each other. They are supposed to help here, they are just not supposed to run the show.
The problem is that they are far stronger than the back of your shoulder. Load the stack up and they take over every rep without you noticing, which is the most common reason this exercise stops working. The next section fixes it.
Rotator Cuff
The rotator cuff is a small group of muscles that keeps the ball of your shoulder sitting properly in its socket. That stability is why face pulls get programmed for shoulder health as much as for size.
That group only earns meaningful work if you finish with your hands rotated back, which is the rope apart finish above. Pull to your face, stop, and you skip the cuff entirely.
Compared with a row, a face pull trades load for rotation, and that trade is the entire point.
How To Do Rear Delt Face Pulls With Correct Form
A face pull done at the wrong pulley height is just a badly angled row. Get the setup right and most of the usual problems solve themselves.
Setting Up The Cable
Set the pulley at face height or slightly above. A low anchor drags your hands down and rolls your upper arm inward, the opposite of what this exercise trains, and it lets your lats and biceps into the rep.
Chest height feels natural because the weight moves so easily. That is exactly the problem.
Grip the rope with your thumbs toward you, hands flush against the handle ends.
A single rope caps how wide your hands can travel, so use a long rope or a spare second one if your gym has them. Without one the movement still works, you just finish narrower.
The Pull Itself
- Step back until the cable is under tension. Feet shoulder width, knees soft, ribs down.
- Start with arms extended and the rope split slightly apart, shoulder blades relaxed forward.
- Drive your elbows back and out. Your hands are hooks, nothing more.
- Keep the elbows level with your shoulders or a touch above.
- Finish with your hands past your elbows near eye level, thumbs turning back, and a small shoulder blade squeeze at the very end.
If you keep getting dragged forward or you lean back to finish reps, sit on a bench facing the machine or drop to a half kneeling position.
Taking your balance out of the equation usually fixes the rep faster than any cue.
Where Your Elbows Actually Belong
Elbows below shoulder height give the rep to your lats and biceps. Cranking them up past your ears is not the fix either, since that just shrugs your traps into the movement.
Level with your shoulders, flared out in line with your body, is the window.
Sequencing matters as much as position. Squeeze your shoulder blades together before you pull and your upper arm barely travels, so your traps absorb the work. Squeeze last, not first.
Film one set from the side. If your elbows dip below the line of your shoulders at any point, the load is too heavy.
The Rope Apart Finish That Separates A Face Pull From A Row
The back of your shoulder has two jobs, and most face pulls only train one of them.
That muscle, the posterior deltoid, drags your arm backward, and it also helps turn your upper arm outward. Turning outward is an assisting action rather than its main job, but it is the half that gets skipped.
If your hands stop at your face and never travel past your elbows, you have done a high row. The rope has to keep splitting apart as you pull, thumbs finishing behind you.
The end position is checkable: elbows in line with your shoulders, hands stacked directly above them, roughly a right angle at each elbow.
Your grip decides this before you even pull. An overhand grip starts you rotated inward with nowhere left to go, while a neutral or thumbs up grip leaves room to finish rotated out.
A rip position study of 19 trained men found the neutral, thumbs up position raised muscle activity in both the back of the shoulder and one of the rotator cuff muscles compared with palms down, though it tested a machine reverse fly rather than face pulls.
Not everyone’s shoulders allow a hard rotation at the top, and that is fine. Getting your elbow behind the line of your body still matters most.
Freeze at the top of your next set and look at your hands. If they are not further back than your elbows, you are rowing.
Why You Feel Face Pulls In Your Traps And Arms Instead
Plenty of lifters run face pulls for years and never feel a thing in the back of their shoulders. It is almost always one of four fixable things.
- The weight is too heavy: Stronger muscles win, and your traps are stronger. Drop the stack until the movement feels almost too easy and the rope still splits apart at the top.
- Your elbows are dropping: Anything below shoulder height passes the rep straight to your lats and biceps. Raise the pulley, lower the weight, and keep the elbows level.
- You are squeezing your shoulder blades first: Pinching at the start locks your shoulder in place before the pull begins, so your upper arm barely travels and your traps absorb everything. Start with your shoulder blades open and slightly forward, drive the elbows back, and squeeze only at the very end.
- You are pulling with your hands: Gripping hard and yanking turns this into a bicep exercise with extra steps. Think of your hands as hooks and let the elbows do the traveling.
A quick load test: if you cannot pause for a full second at the top of the rep, the weight is winning.
Of those four, shoulder blade timing is the one to try first if you have already gone lighter and still feel nothing.
Pause at the top of a rep and ask whether you feel it in the back of your shoulders. If the answer is no, change one thing, and only one per session. That is the only way you will know which fix actually worked.
Benefits Of Rear Delt Face Pulls

Most exercises either build muscle or protect a joint. This one does a bit of both, which is why it survives in so many programs.
Rounder Shoulders From The Side
Face pulls build the back of your shoulders, the one head almost nobody trains directly. That is what makes shoulders look round from the side instead of flat from the front.
Better Posture
Hours at a desk and on your phone leave most people rounded forward. Face pulls drag your shoulders back the other way, where they belong.
Rotator Cuff Work Without The Boring Part
The rope apart finish trains the small stabilizers that keep your shoulder healthy. Turning your arm outward at shoulder level is easier on most people than lying on your side with a tiny dumbbell.
Carryover To Your Pressing
Holding your shoulder blades tight and back is exactly what a solid bench setup asks for. The strength you build here shows up under a bar.
If your shoulders complain during overhead work, pair face pulls with a scaption raise and run both light at the end of the session.
Face pulls are not the only way to train the back of your shoulders, though, and they are not automatically the best one.
Rear Delt Face Pulls With Dumbbells And Resistance Bands

One of the two obvious home options is a genuine face pull. The other is not, and knowing which saves you wasted sets.
Band Face Pulls
This is the real substitute, because a band pulls horizontally away from you exactly like a cable does.
Anchor the band at eye level on something solid, then step back until there is tension.
Pull toward your forehead with your elbows leading and flared wide, rotate your hands so your thumbs finish pointing back, then return slowly.
A square stance is fine with a light band. Once the band gets strong, stagger your stance with one foot forward or it will drag you off balance.
The trade off: band tension keeps climbing through the rep, which suits this movement, but adding resistance precisely is harder than moving a pin.
The Dumbbell Question
You cannot properly do a face pull with dumbbells. Dumbbells only resist straight down, and a face pull needs resistance pulling horizontally away from you.
What you can do is the closest cousin, a bent over lateral raise or its chest supported version, driving your elbows out and back.
Know what you give up. The turning outward finish mostly disappears, so you keep the rear delt work and lose the cuff work.
If you have a band, use the band. If you only have dumbbells, take the raise rather than forcing a face pull out of gear that cannot produce one.
Face Pulls Vs Rear Delt Flys: Which One Should You Do?
The face pull is easiest exactly where the back of your shoulder should be working hardest.
It gives the least resistance while your arm is stretched across your body and the most once the rope is split and the muscle is short, which is also why lifters lean back to finish reps.
If you want the back of your shoulders bigger, a fly style movement is the more direct tool. If you want the turning outward work too, the face pull does a job the fly does not.

| Face Pull | Rear Delt Fly | |
|---|---|---|
| What it trains | Back of shoulders, upper back, rotator cuff | Back of shoulders, little else |
| Hardest point | Late, once the rope is already apart | Early, arm stretched across the body |
| Best for | Shoulder health plus size | Size, directly |
Comparisons between pulling exercises point the same way. A study of 12 trained men found the reverse pec deck beat both seated rows and lat pulldowns for activity in the back of the shoulder, and face pulls were not among the exercises tested.
Treat that as a nudge, not a verdict. Lab activation numbers do not reliably predict which exercise builds more muscle.
Running both is not redundant when the goals differ. Fly for size, face pull for the rotation.
FAQs
Do Face Pulls Really Work The Rear Delts?
Yes, but only once your elbow travels past the line of your body. A short pull that stops in front of your chest is mostly upper back work. Keep the elbows level with your shoulders and drive them behind you to reach the rear delt.
Should The Cable Be Above Your Head For Face Pulls?
Face height or slightly above it works best. Setting the pulley higher than that encourages a shrug and pulls your traps into the movement, while setting it lower turns the exercise into an awkwardly angled row that your lats and biceps take over.
How Many Face Pulls Should I Do Per Week?
Two to three sessions a week, at 2 to 4 sets of 12 to 20 reps each. Keep the weight light enough to control the whole rep. That lands you around 4 to 12 weekly sets from face pulls alone, which is plenty for a small muscle.
Can You Do Rear Delt Face Pulls With Dumbbells?
Not properly, because dumbbells only resist straight down and a face pull needs resistance pulling horizontally away from you. A bent over rear delt raise is the closest swap. If you own a resistance band, the band version is much closer to the real thing.
Are Face Pulls Or Rear Delt Flys Better?
Flys are the more direct choice for building size in the back of your shoulders. Face pulls add the turning outward work that flys skip, which makes them better for shoulder health. Pick by your goal, or run both on different days.
Bottom Line
Rear delt face pulls work when the pulley sits at face height or just above, your elbows lead and stay level with your shoulders, and the rope keeps splitting apart until your hands finish past your elbows. Stopping at your face is a row.
Go lighter than feels right. Two to four sets of 12 to 20 reps, two or three times a week, is plenty. If size in the back of your shoulders is the priority rather than shoulder health, a fly style movement earns the slot instead.
At your next session, change one thing only, either the pulley height or the finish position, and check whether it lands where it should. One change, one session, one clear answer.







